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Post  onevia drift on Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:58 pm

Anyone here running any kind of suspension they wanna share?
Whether it be springs/struts or coilover assy.


I was running Kei Office coils 9k/7k
THEY WERE AWESOME.. but they were old and 2 gave out. on opposite corners of my car. So driving i was kinda scary.

I am now running a "Frankencoil" setup.
Godspeed struts/dampers with kei office springs and tophats

I love it because i have a soft damper matched with a semi-stiff spring.
Daily driving them is awesome because they're soft when you want em to be
Track use is good too because of the stiffer spring.

All in all i like it.
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Post  StryfeS13 on Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:02 am

Lol @ your frankencoils...and wheel scrape...

But hey, at least you have coils!
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Post  chaos2000 on Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:50 pm

does anybody on here have any experience with the godspeed fully adjustable coilovers. iv read lots of stuff on them more good then bad but its always good to have a local word to go by.
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Post  StryfeS13 on Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:28 pm

Onevia drift has had godspeed coils, and so has my friend Greg. They work good, Godspeed makes good products.
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Post  S13 on Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:16 pm

How about KYB GAS SHOCKS and Eibach Pro Kit.
They are very nice.
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Post  onevia drift on Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:33 pm

My very first setup back in 01 was KYG AGX and tein S-tech springs.
I liked it alot..

KYB is a good brand and if i'm not mistakin ... they have a lifetime warranty
so if they blow, and you still have the reciept, go get yourself a new set fo FREE!

I am running godspeed dampers/struts, whatever... I like em alot,
Some ppl have problems in a year of two with them clicking when you turn, but that was their old style of coil. I havent heard any bad things about their new ones yet.

The only thing I HIGHLY RECOMMEND, is getting a coil with a twistable perch(mounting assy.)
Alot of name brand coils have a threaded damper but you can't turn the mounting assy.
Without being able to lower/raise your car using this method you lose dampener travel (your coils will blow)

When you want to lower a car without baing able to turn the mounting assy. you lower it by lowering the spring perch.. bad juju
If you need any help with selecting and/or adjusting your coils just let me know.

I researched suspension, tires, treadwares, spring stiffness for track/drifting, sway bars etc etc for like 5 years before i started even driving lol.

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Post  RealSealS13 on Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:37 pm

Exactly what Jake said. As for me I ran the same exact setup (KYB AGX w/ Tein S. Tech springs) and honestly would be the best bang for the buck. Depending on what your main goal is this might be close. They are 4 way adjustable up front and 8 in the rear (Damper) and I used them for many autox events. I enjoyed them alot and got rid of that horrible wheel gap. As of now I'm running Godspeed coilovers 9kg up front and 8 in the rear w/ 16way adjustability at ur fingertips. Honestly, these guys make great parts for our cars. I would strongly suggest investing in their parts. I run their sway bars as well and I can tell you they make the beefiest sway bars on the market even beefier that tanabe. If you get a chance search for some adjustable endlinks. I got some super rare JIC Magic adjustable 4 way endlinks. Put both of these together and u can really dial in the settings of ur car. From personal experience I don't believe spring rates will make much of an improvement or ur driving style. I actually noticed with a more agressive spring rate the more harsher the ride plus higher tendencies to break traction. anyways, my two cents:)
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Post  Blades15 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:19 pm

for ~$800 what do you think the best bang for the buck would be?
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Post  onevia drift on Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:48 pm

For $800 i would say Megan tracks/Megan streets.

I daily'd tracks a few years back... It's borderline back breaking.....
I have heard good things about streets too tho.

I dont know much on who slls a great coil for cheap aymore. I havent looked into it.

From what i know now, Megans, Ksport, and Godspeeds are around that price. Not sure on much else
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Post  Blades15 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:32 pm

onevia drift wrote:For $800 i would say Megan tracks/Megan streets.

I daily'd tracks a few years back... It's borderline back breaking.....
I have heard good things about streets too tho.

I dont know much on who slls a great coil for cheap aymore. I havent looked into it.

From what i know now, Megans, Ksport, and Godspeeds are around that price. Not sure on much else

I know this probably sounds pretty nube. Forgive me. I am probably gonna ride mine a little higher than flush. I'm looking for a suspension which feels very firm and predictable for drifting, yet isn't going to break my car when i hit a pothole (Driving to Chicago and they gotta few there). IDK. Since i have no experience w/ any professional coil over setup, I don't know what to look for. I liked my Mazda Protege's OEM suspension as it seemed pretty firm, especially compared to the OEM s13 setup. I looked up the spring rates on them and they're 150 lbs/in front, 130 lbs/in rear. Lol. All the S13 coilover setups seem much firmer when comparing numbers. Any suggestgions as this will be my daily driver? (I saw some Stances Gr+'s on CL for $700.)

BTW, My Isis Suspension package came in the mail today. Smile
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Post  Blades15 on Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:45 pm

I found this review on zilvia. Made by Jeff240sx. Looks like it'd be of interest to those trying to find a good cheap coilover from first hand experience.

Megan Racing Coilovers:
Impressions, Thoughts and Opinions

When I heard about the Megan Racing Coilovers, and having friends that have test-fit prototypes for their products, I knew they’d be good. So without hesitation, I snapped up the chance to buy a set of coilovers from them for about the same price as the KSports I bought a month before.
Before I go into a review on these, one needs to realize who I am. I’m just a guy in college. I don’t drift. I don’t autocross. I take corners very fast, and drag race. My previous car was a Corvette, so suspension stiffness is relative to me, and my girlfriend isn’t one of those bitchy ones.

First Thoughts
I paid for my coilovers on a Tuesday night. On Friday afternoon, the UPS guy came up the stairs with the coilovers. This was lightning fast shipping courtesy of Megan Racing. At first, I was surprised by the weight of the package. My KSports were just over ½ the weight. I knew something was different, and when I tore into the box like a kid on Christmas, there it was; welded steel construction. With budget coilovers, I was expecting cheap feeling aluminum mounts as with KSport/D2. Also, there were pillow ball mounts on the rear shocks. This wasn’t even an option on the KSport/D2, and even front PBMs were an additional $80. I was really impressed. Plus, they were pre-assembled. No building on them required. The 32-way dampener’s key is attached, which is one less piece to lose! (Does it work? I don’t know. I don’t have a shock dyno)
First Thoughts: 10/10.

Installation
That weekend, I removed and installed the Megan Racing coilovers. People seem to buy suspension based on color, aesthetics, and pictures of the installed product. For the first two groups of people, you’re idiots. For the last group, even though a shock inherently must mount at points A & B so I personally don’t see why pictures are required, my camera died. I was hoping to get my car in the air one more time this weekend, but a more important issue came up. So I don’t have pictures of the mounted coilovers. Maybe I will in another week.
After removing the gaudy orange KSports, I bolted up the front shock. But my S14 set’s McPherson mounting plate’s bolt holes were not far enough apart. When compared to the KSport’s McPherson mount, the holes were 1/8” too close. I solved this with a Dremel tool, a spare car, and a trip to the store for 3 grinding bits. After 40 minutes of grinding (yes, if I would have had a bench press, I would have used it), the mounting brackets fit.
The rear studs on the upper mounting plates are longer than stock/KSport studs, and the rubber dust cap will not snap down over them. This isn’t a serious issue, but it made me wonder why there were so many installation issues that could or should have been corrected before shipping for sales.
Installation: 3/10.
*I’m told that this has been corrected for S14s.*

Initial Reaction
These coilovers were less stiff, and less bouncy than my KSports could hope to be. Even with the 8/6 spring rates, the ride was really comfortable. The ride is perfect for my tastes. Stiff and nice for my girlfriend’s taste, and “Really stiff” to my buddy Braxton, who owns a Civic Hatch. As I said in the intro, stiffness is relative.
Initial Reaction: 8/10. It lost a few points for the bounciness.

Long Term
It’s been 2 weeks since I’ve installed these. The coilovers have settled ¼-½ an inch. This has made the ride much softer than initially. I will be re-raising my car when time permits, and if I have a camera available, I’ll snap some pictures. The bounciness has all but subsided. The ride is still too harsh for Braxton, and Brandi and I think the ride is nice for every day. My one issue that has popped up is that occasionally, when making a left turn, my passenger-side rear shock clunks. Tomorrow I plan on double-checking all mounting points, and recounting the threads. I left the coilovers at the preload that they were shipped with. I’m thinking a it needs a bit more in the rear.
Long Term: 8/10 due to the newfound occasional clunk. Tomorrow, if something simple fixes the clunk, it’ll be a 10.

Comparison
When comparing one coilover to another, I think that price ranges should be used. And $200 seems like a perfectly reasonable price range. So in the $700 to $900 price range, the coilovers that I have experience with are: Tein basics ($799), Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC (6/4) ($799), KSport/D2 ($750), and Megan Racing. ($850)
Tein Basics: A step up from a spring/shock combo. 6/6 spring rate. Only height adjustable.
Here you are paying for a great ride and name. These come with helper springs, making these the ultimate coilover setup for daily driving in my opinion.
Megan Racing: 8/6 spring rates. Single valve shock setup. Awesome construction. In my opinion, my favorite ride all around. For daily driving only, I’d buy Tein Basics. But for a good mix of comfort and performance, I’ll take these.
Tanabe: Good ride. I’d rate these slightly behind the Megan Racing coilovers. 6/4 spring rate. Also only height adjustable. Dual valve shock setup. These have a good ride due to helper springs again, but sharp bumps (like a pothole) are pretty bone jarring once you’ve passed the helper springs. If you don’t hit potholes, for daily driving, these are #2. For performance, once you pass the helper spring, it’s like you’ve bottomed out the suspension. It’s not a nice transition, and I’ll take the Megan Racing coilovers over them.
KSport/D2: Utter crap. I had an issue with the camber adjustment bolt sliding from where I set it to full negative camber, which caused rubbing. When I HAD to drive, I installed wheel spacers so I wouldn’t rub, and drove carefully. These were stiff, bouncy, and clunked badly. The clunking is from the front, and is either the pillow ball mount needing a better lubrication, or the springs being too preloaded have been known to cause it. The sliding camber bolt I will fix by making a blockoff plate, and eliminating all of the slot, leaving a bolt hole. The stiffness is because KSports were offered in many spring rates, and I really don’t think they were re-valved for each rate. When I ordered 9/7 and an extra set of 5kg/mm, I didn’t receive the extra springs, and couldn’t revert to what the coilovers were supposedly valved for (7/5). I also put a mere 20 miles on my car with the KSports due to the camber issue, so some of the bounce and harshness *might* go away. The 1-year warranty associated with them is a joke, because KSport USA’s website lists the address the same as TrixRacing, who has up and left dozens of people on NICO without cash or coils.

What would I like?
First off I’d like a new set of McPherson mounting plates from Megan Racing. I think that myself, and anyone else who has had to elongate the bolt holes deserves a new set, in the name of safety and customer service.
Next up, I think if helper springs were an option, I’d really look into them. After taking some rather long joyrides in my friend’s cars with the coilovers with helper springs, my car feels much, much more stiff. That feeling goes away after a bit, but getting out of the Tein Basic s13 and into my Megan Racing s14 is an eye opener. Please don’t construe this as the Megan Racing is too stiff. It’s not. I like it a lot. But a good set of helper springs with a decent transition, and these coilovers would be HOT.

If anything pops up, or I snap some pictures, I’ll stuff them into this thread. Aside from picture questions (Look at online pictures from retailers. They had a professional take those pictures. And when they’re installed, they go from the one mounting point to the other. It’s not hard to mentally picture), if there is something I haven’t covered, ask away.
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